Morroblivion

That's very nice. :)

Have you fixed the bracers on bonemold armor, as well as some of the other bugged armor sets yet though.  I hate to keep nagging on you jlike this, but they really are FAR more important than anything else you could be doing for the Skywind project.

The thing is, we have weapons.  However good or bad the models may be, we still have them.  There is 0 armor ingame at the moment, and with quests, the lack of armor really stands in the way of making this mod playable.

Btw will split armor system be merged in vanilla Skywind, or will it be optional? Will there also be standard gloves/helm/body/boots one? Thanks.

We still need to split up the hands. I went ahead and got all possible items assigned to slots. The only ones i didn't add is the 2 rings, because i think we shouldn't assign slots for them for visibility.

I thought about that last night. Bracers and gauntlets can be worn together can't they? I added them to the list.

Gauntlets can't and shouldn't be worn with bracers (it was like this in Morrowind too), and rings should be visible just like in Skyrim, but it wouldn't kill me if they weren't I guess.  Also, I don't think gloves could be equiped at the same time as armor in Morrowind either?  But I'm not sure on that one.  But I do kind of like the idea of being able to wear gloves with gauntlets, so I don't know.

My only other thought is this:  Is there a way to script things to make items placed in certain slots invisible when other slots are equiped?  Like make shirts invisible when armor is equipped.  That would solve a lot of clipping issues.

Edit:  Oh, one other thought.  The Morrowind robes are essentially the same as Skyrim armor and robes right?  So maybe we should add those to the same slot as the Skyrim armor and make a new slot for the Morrowind cuirass instead?

Oh, and just reading chat.  You could only wear 2 rings in Morrowind. :)

That's awesome about the invisibility though.

And if you guys don't remember stuff about Morrowind, you can always just ask me.  I know that game like the back of my hand.

Edit:  More chat log :)   I'm fine with having pants and skirts using different slots I suppose.  I only ever used the skirt for enchantments in Morrowind.  But the question I have is, How many slots do we have left after everything else is said and done?  Because if we have a few extras, we might as well make it as close to Morrowind as possible.

I never encountered that in my hundreds of hours in Morrowind that I can remember, but if you really want I can check for you.

That sounds great to me Machine.  Don't forget about the robes hiding the armor, shirt, and amulet though. :)

What do you think about my idea of switching the slots for cuirass and robes?

There's a mod DSpSoB (Dual Sheath plus Shields on Back) which is not compatible with custom skeletons, any chance using vanilla one or maybe some compatibility patch?

Because it would take about 5000% more effort to give the two options.  And no one on the team wants the Skyrim system.  We also had a poll somewhere, and virtually everyone not on the team wanted the Morrowind system as well I believe.  

Sorry, but you're not getting the Skyrim system unless you or someone else wants to make a HUGE mod.

I'm just trying to wrap my head around it.  It utilizes the Skyrim engine and resources, why not have the normal Skyrim systems in place, with the Morrowind systems as a separate mod?

alexanderb wrote:

how would this affect skyrim.esm exactly?

I never said it would.  I think you're misreading me.

Shadow wrote:

 It does not affect Skyrim at all.

I don't know why this keeps getting repeated, it has nothing to do with what I was asking.

But I have a better picture in my head now.

One last question:  Would it be possible (all practicality of such a massive task aside) for an individual using the mod to go in and alter it to a 4 slot system if they chose to do so(replacing all the armor pieces and so on and so forth)?

Everything is possible.  But I would probably laugh at you if you tried. :)

Really though, in all seriousness, just try our system.  We're putting a lot of work into it and it will be really nice, and complete with all the layering options from Morrowind (but no clipping).  Maybe you'll be less adamant on having the Skyrim way after you've tried it.

You have to understand that we can't please everyone.  And you are about the only person we have come across that prefers the simplified Skyrim system.

I'm almost willing to bet your personal preferences will change once you actually play with the split armor though :)

1. If you'll manually add these new nodes to each vanilla Skyrim armor so that the naked legs wouldn't be seen, then they'll still be seen for all of the custom armors from different armor mods, so it'll generally make all armor mods incompatible? Probably I just missed something here.

2. Also DSpSoB mod (Dual Sheath plus Shields on Back) will not work even if the exact copy of vanilla skeleton is added to the Meshes folder to overwrite the default one. Hope it'll be sorted out somehow.

Imho some sort of pre-alpha with at least one armor set ingame will allow to see how it'll work with different mod setups on different systems. Really looking forward to this, it's going to be awesome :)